Comments on: With Regard to Essential Doctrines http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:11:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: InFocus » Blog Archive » Third Anniversary of InFocus http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-2488 InFocus » Blog Archive » Third Anniversary of InFocus Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:12:21 +0000 http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-2488 [...] With Regard to Essential Doctrines - Guest post by Spurgeon… bet he never thought he’d be blogging! [...] [...] With Regard to Essential Doctrines - Guest post by Spurgeon… bet he never thought he’d be blogging! [...]

]]> By: Jason http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-1073 Jason Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:08:25 +0000 http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-1073 Actually, I think several of these men were more Calvinist than you might think. But of course we can give the other list: Calvinists: William Carey, Father of modern missions Charles Spurgeon, Prince of preachers George Whitefield, great revival preacher Jonathan Edwards, preached perhaps the most well known gospel sermon ever preached Ian Paisley, Firebrand soul-winner Jim Elliot, Missionary martyr And while we're talking about Rice, it was the "Sword of the Lord" that published Spurgeon for years while editing out his Calvinism. It's a form of intellectual dishonesty, but I think it's backfired because now a whole generation of fundamentalists know and respect Spurgeon and have to face the reality that this passionate, soul-winning preacher was also an unabashed five-point Calvinist. Actually, I think several of these men were more Calvinist than you might think. But of course we can give the other list:

Calvinists:

William Carey, Father of modern missions
Charles Spurgeon, Prince of preachers
George Whitefield, great revival preacher
Jonathan Edwards, preached perhaps the most well known gospel sermon ever preached
Ian Paisley, Firebrand soul-winner
Jim Elliot, Missionary martyr

And while we’re talking about Rice, it was the “Sword of the Lord” that published Spurgeon for years while editing out his Calvinism. It’s a form of intellectual dishonesty, but I think it’s backfired because now a whole generation of fundamentalists know and respect Spurgeon and have to face the reality that this passionate, soul-winning preacher was also an unabashed five-point Calvinist.

]]> By: Christopher http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-1072 Christopher Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:31:11 +0000 http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-1072 G’day Jason, “On the other hand, if Spurgeon was effective in preaching the gospel, you have to take into account what Spurgeon believed the gospel to be.” Yes and the many others who were just as effective and were not Calvinist. Ironside, Moody, Rice, Billy Sunday, Bob Jones SR. and others G’day Jason,
“On the other hand, if Spurgeon was effective in preaching the gospel, you have to take into account what Spurgeon believed the gospel to be.”
Yes and the many others who were just as effective and were not Calvinist. Ironside, Moody, Rice, Billy Sunday, Bob Jones SR. and others

]]> By: Jason http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-1071 Jason Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:05:47 +0000 http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-1071 Hey Chris, Thanks for your comment. You make a valid point that simply because Spurgeon was effective doesn't mean that every position he held (like Calvinism for instance) must be right. On the other hand, if Spurgeon was effective in preaching the gospel, you have to take into account what Spurgeon believed the gospel to be. According to Spurgeon, "Calvinism is the gospel." Everything comes back to theology. Spurgeon's Calvinism wasn't incidental to his ministry. Spurgeon's Calvinism was the heart of his ministry. That is the historical fact that has to be dealt with. Hey Chris,

Thanks for your comment.

You make a valid point that simply because Spurgeon was effective doesn’t mean that every position he held (like Calvinism for instance) must be right. On the other hand, if Spurgeon was effective in preaching the gospel, you have to take into account what Spurgeon believed the gospel to be. According to Spurgeon, “Calvinism is the gospel.”

Everything comes back to theology. Spurgeon’s Calvinism wasn’t incidental to his ministry. Spurgeon’s Calvinism was the heart of his ministry. That is the historical fact that has to be dealt with.

]]> By: Christopher http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-1070 Christopher Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:19:11 +0000 http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-1070 We must remember God used Spurgeon in spite of his Calvinism, not because he was a Calvinist. He was also a cigar smoker and very over weight. It seems that when Calvinist wants to promote Calvinism they quickly turn to Spurgeon (and I believe God used him greatly). God used Spurgeon, he was a Calvinist so Calvinism must be God’s way. This of course is faulty logic. God used Spurgeon, he smoked cigars so cigars must be God’s way. Just a thought Cheers! We must remember God used Spurgeon in spite of his Calvinism, not because he was a Calvinist. He was also a cigar smoker and very over weight. It seems that when Calvinist wants to promote Calvinism they quickly turn to Spurgeon (and I believe God used him greatly). God used Spurgeon, he was a Calvinist so Calvinism must be God’s way. This of course is faulty logic. God used Spurgeon, he smoked cigars so cigars must be God’s way. Just a thought Cheers!

]]> By: Jason http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-907 Jason Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:21:41 +0000 http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-907 <p>Hey,</p> <p>It's taken from a sermon posted at <a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Pyromaniacs</a> recently. Yes, I was reading Dallimore's biography of Spurgeon this week and the author actually pointed out how some publications have edited Spurgeon's Calvinism out of his sermons. (!)</p> Hey,

It’s taken from a sermon posted at Pyromaniacs recently. Yes, I was reading Dallimore’s biography of Spurgeon this week and the author actually pointed out how some publications have edited Spurgeon’s Calvinism out of his sermons. (!)

]]> By: Steven Mock http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-906 Steven Mock Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:25:19 +0000 http://givemetruth.net/infocus/with-regard-to-essential-doctrines/#comment-906 Jason, From what source did you obtain this quote? I like it a lot. Did Spurgeon really say that "Calvinistic doctrine is SO dear to us"? I bet that comes as a big surprise to many! Jason,

From what source did you obtain this quote? I like it a lot. Did Spurgeon really say that “Calvinistic doctrine is SO dear to us”? I bet that comes as a big surprise to many!

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